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CLC
12-10-2001, 09:19 PM
Ok I was thinking about getting a measuring wheel and just go around the out side lind of the mowing area, But my question is what is the area isnt square. How would I find the square footage inside that area. Also If you can can you add your square footage rate? THANKS:)

65hoss
12-10-2001, 10:09 PM
Help me to understand the questions? Do you mean if you have a triangle shaped area? or circle?


Also If you can can you add your square footage rate?--------huh? I'm lost on this one.

CLC
12-10-2001, 10:14 PM
I was gonna do this for bidding on new lawns ad we all know all the lawns arent square, What do you charge a for X amount of square footage of lawn

Flex-Deck
12-10-2001, 10:49 PM
I took a lot of math throughout my career up thru dental school, and here is the formula.

pie-squared+left side divided by the south side x the east side divided by the square root of the north side + the total perimeter less the sub total of the negative of the positive of the difference between the corners. LOL :) ROTFLMAO

Flex-Deck
12-10-2001, 10:52 PM
Seriously CLC - Try to lay out on paper a guesstamate of the shape and try to square it off as best you can. You would have to be a surveyor to get exact square footage, and don't cheat yourself. Thanks Brad

Crazygator
12-10-2001, 11:02 PM
CLC,
Even though it may not be a perfect square, you will have 4 side you can measure. Measure all 4 sides, add all sides and divide by 4. Then take that number times itself. This will give you square footage.

Example: 300 + 220 + 180 + 100 = 800. 800 divided by 4 = 200. 200 x 200 = 40000. So in the example you have a 40k lawn.

Of course if you would have had a number like 38690, then round up to the nearest thousand, or 39k.

Around here you would get between $1.20 - $1.35 per thousand. An acre is 43560 square feet, or easier to remember 44000. At 44k times $1.35 you would charge $59.40 or rounded up to $60.00. And yes we get 60 an acre or more, depending on trimming and layout of yard.

But keep in mind there is a minimum for services and you have to establish that for your market. I hope this helps you out!

JJ Lawn
12-10-2001, 11:03 PM
One way to measure irrgular shapes within 5% accuracy. That is shapes that are not square, triangle and such. Kind of like kidney bean shape, curvy etc.

1. Measure the longest axis of the area(length)

2. At every 10 feet on the length measure the width at right angles to the length line.

3. Total all widths and multiply by 10.


Jim

Andy Miller
12-10-2001, 11:10 PM
I understand the measurement process. However, do you have to measure the structures or areas not to be cut (Pool/patio) and subtract those sq. ft?

treeman82
12-10-2001, 11:45 PM
Here is how I was taught to do this. You go and take a walk around the property with your measuring wheel. Get your length, get your width. Do that for all sides of the property. Go then and measure your non-turf areas. Gardens / house / paved surfaces / etc. - these areas get subtracted from your overall area. If you have an area that is shaped like a trapezoid or something what you do is you go and get your length. Get your width. Make sure you have whatever numbers you will need to break that one big wierd area up into 3 basic structures: rectangle / circle / triangle. Take the areas of those pieces and add them up.

CLC
12-10-2001, 11:46 PM
Thanks for all the help

cpmayhewinc
12-11-2001, 12:12 AM
I measure inorder to do my applications correctly. I measure if the spec sheet requires it and I price per linear or square feet in that case, however, for basic mowing and trimming estimates I look and the entire property including total footage. That driveway gets blown clean doesn't it? Be careful about telling a client about charging (Example: .03/square foot) you could cut yourself out of P.I.T.A. cost.