Oil Filter for 32 hp Generac

[2manymowers]

Can I buy an oil filter for the 32 hp Generac at an auto parts store? The manual says any use of non-Generac parts will void the warranty. Surely this does not include the oil filter? How about Amsoil? Do they make a filter for this engine? If so, does anyne have the Amsoil part number? The Amsoil cross reference won't show anything when I enter the Generac part number. Thanks

[DC Service]

The use of a non-Generac oil filter will void your engine warranty if you have an oil related engine failure during the warranty period.I would ALWAYS use the engine mfgs OEM part during the warranty to be on the safe side. :)

[Mowingman]

This is a good example of a manufacturer out to gouge the buyer of their product. Or, their engine is so fragile, that they are afraid to have another brand filter put on it. Why, not even Caterpillar or John Deere force you to use their own brand filters on their engines to maintain warranty.
Generac could simply specify other filters that meet their requirements. While I have no exact pricing data, I would not be surprised to find that the Generac filters are way more expensive than aftermarket filters.
My suggestion. Put on whatever good quality, aftermarket filter you can easily find in your area. Keep an old used Generac filter on the shelf. If you ever have an engine warranty issue, sinply put that spare used filter back on the machine before taking it to the dealers.
I would not let Generac get away with this obvious rip off. Besides, I bet Fram, Wix, or one of the other filter makers is supplying Generac with their filters anyway.
It really burns me up when a manufacturer will not tell you what other brands of common parts will fit on their machine. I have always liked the way DC helps the purchaser of their machines, by giving the common V belt replacement sizes. :mad:

[dixieseller]

I just checked WIX Master Interchange, they do not list any filter crossing to Generac's 070185 filter, which retails for $5.67.

[Mowingman]

Thanks for checking Paul. Well, at least the price is fair. However, I am sure an aftermarket filter must be avail., for those who can not find a Generac filter locally. Of course, the obvious solution is to order them from Paul. Good prices and fast service.

[txchopper]

Jeff... Did you read your post before you hit the "send" button ? Spouting off about price.. before you have, even the smallest idea, of what the price is ? Call your service Department, now that you are a Dealer for Grasshopper, they too should relay what the engine manufactors have in print. Which is the very same book that Chopper gets their information from. I am sure the Grasshopper Folks loves to see you condon... no wait you came up with the idea.. of how to fraud a company on warranty claims... Save the old filter and put it back on ???? Have you bump your head or have your morals sunk that low. I use to value your opinions and remarks.... I am sorry to see you have traded your integrity for this devious and fraudulent way of conducting business.

[Mowingman]

I have found that Grasshopper, DC, and some other manufacturers will provide the common aftermarket replacement parts numbers for items such as belts, filters, hydro. oil etc. However, some manufacturers will not divulge that info., thus forcing an owner to go to them for parts. As a dealer, I will always try to help my customer find fairly priced aftermarket parts that will work on his Grasshopper mower. I can not keep everything in stock, and if a customer needs a belt I don't happen to have, or a filter, I will give them belt sizes or filter numbers so they can go get them at the NAPA store or elsewhere. The customers really appreciate this, and will come back when they need something else.
As to this filter deal. Well, Kubota, kohler, & Kawasaki, all used in Grasshopper mowers,are all sure their engines will perform well with any brand of filter.
If Generac wants to play games with their Warranty, by specing only their brand of filters, then they are opening themselves up to just the kind of actions I mentioned in my last post. No, I am not really condoning that, but that is what some folks will do. What next? Will Generac require that purchasers only use "Generac" spark plugs. How about official "Generac" engine oil. Maybe I am wrong, but I see these tactics as being a way to deny warranty whenever they get the chance.
I will get off my soapbox now.

[txchopper]

You stated it correctly " you are wrong". In both your thoughts and posting. If a part cost a few cents/dollars more and it omits all doubt with deciding a warranty claim, I would gladly pay the price difference. It is cheap insurance. Yes, others might resort to fraudulant practices.. now that you have planted this seed for them. I see the level of commitment you give your Manufactors...none. You just stated how to commit fraud. I find myself wondering, do you limit this fraud to Manufactors an warranty or is it shared equally among your customers also ? You wont last long with this mind-set and business practices. Perhaps you should trade in your "soap box" for a dictionary...hence learning the meaning of integrity, honesty, loyalty and " good business".

[Mowingman]

txchopper,
You have missed my whole point here and turned this into some kind on personal vendetta. I guess since you are the DC factory rep. for this area and we choose not to sell your line, you have some hard feelings against us.
I would have given you more credit than that. Have a nice day. :)

[2manymowers]

Thanks for the replies and the information. The $5.67 is no big deal, but my 8 hour oil change is due and I would have liked to have done it today. There are auto parts stores open today(Advantage Auto,AutoZone,Pep Boys, etc.), but no DC dealers. Yes, I should have bought filters in advance, but I have not seen my local dealer since the DC was delivered, and have not had a chance to get over there. Mowingman, I agree with you about the warranty BS, but I'll have to play their game, for now, especially if there are no other brands available.

[Mowingman]

Good luck with your new DC. They are fine mowers, and I think Generac may be an up and comer in the air-cooled engine business for mower applications. I just hate to see any manufacturer do something like spec. only thier own filters. It gives the appearance that they may be playing some game with any future warranty claim.
I really do hope that one of the manufacturers we represent will try the Generac engines at some point. It is always good when you can give customers a wide choice of engines. Everyone has their favorites. :)

[Lawn Tek]

The use of a non-Generac oil filter will void your engine warranty if you have an oil related engine failure during the warranty period.I would ALWAYS use the engine mfgs OEM part during the warranty to be on the safe side. :)

Wrong info once again , The Magnuson - Moss Warranty Act states that and under general principles of the federal trade commission act , a manufacture
MAY NOT require the use of any branded product[or any other article]
unless the manufacture provides it FREE OF CHARGE under the terms of the warranty .

Folks you can get the full copy of the law at any autoparts store .

[txchopper]

My suggestion. Put on whatever good quality, aftermarket filter you can easily find in your area. Keep an old used Generac filter on the shelf. If you ever have an engine warranty issue, sinply put that spare used filter back on the machine before taking it to the dealers.
This is the comment that you made, it is the only comment that bothers me. It has nothing to do with what lines you do or do not carry. What DC Service should have said is " it might void your waranty if you have an oil failure relted problem. Much like if you changed oil in your Dodge rear-end. If a different oil is used and there is a failure, you and the other compoany would be in a position to defend the product you used. Is it worth it to save a few dollars. To me it is not... this is why I spent $15.00 a quart on the oil in my trucks rear-end. I believe an 90 wieght would do... but why take a chance. I truely hope you don't run your business by "your" suggestions. Your manufactors have put alot of trust in you. You are their eyes and ears.. make sure you are worthy of this vast responsibility, they are putting their future in your hands.

[Mowingman]

Lawn Tek,
That is an interesting piece of information. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. I was not aware that a law like that was in place.

[dixieseller]

I give an extra oil filter and two quarts of Kohler 10 w 30 oil to each customer that buys a Dixie with the Generac engine, as I know they cannot find a replacement filter locally. And they will most likly want to change that oil when my store is closed.

[2manymowers]

Time to drag up an old thread. :D I just recalled that when my dealer found a couple oil filters for me, they were black and the same size as the original, they were not marked as made in the same country, and internally they are obviously different. Any comments DC Service ?

[gorrell]

2manymowers, the wix filter for the generac engine is 51394. I've got a couple left over from my generac days and will send them to you for the price of the freight. Let me know................Lynn

[2manymowers]

2manymowers, the wix filter for the generac engine is 51394. I've got a couple left over from my generac days and will send them to you for the price of the freight. Let me know................Lynn

Gorrell,
Thanks for the offer. If you can ship them for 5 bucks or so by 1st class mail, I will take that offer. The Wix cross reference will not take the Generac filter number. How did you come up with a matching Wix filter?

TMM

[gorrell]

2manymowers, I believe I got the cross reference number thru www.filter1.com They fit, however, and no problems with Wix filters as you probably know................Lynn PM me your address and I'll get them out to you the first of the week

[DC Service]

Time to drag up an old thread. :D I just recalled that when my dealer found a couple oil filters for me, they were black and the same size as the original, they were not marked as made in the same country, and internally they are obviously different. Any comments DC Service ?
The hydro filters on a Dixie Chopper work on a vacuum( not pressure like the other mfgs).Thats why it is so important to use OEM hydro filters.Its cheap insurance(considering the cost of pumps and wheel motors)Just because it screws on does not mean it will work properly! :)

[2manymowers]

The hydro filters on a Dixie Chopper work on a vacuum( not pressure like the other mfgs).Thats why it is so important to use OEM hydro filters.Its cheap insurance(considering the cost of pumps and wheel motors)Just because it screws on does not mean it will work properly! :)

DC Service,

I am speaking of the engine oil filter, not the hydro filters. Because I can look into the new oil filters and see that they are internally different from the original filter, is it possible that I have hydro filters instead of oil filters ? If this is so then I am running a hydro filter on my engine.

[DC Service]

With the low cost of OEM filters,I would not use anything else(unless it meets all mfgs specs and the warranty period is over)I realize you are trying to save $$$ but is it really worth it in the long run? :confused:

[Lawn Tek]

1. Genrac doesnt make oil filters . 3 companies make 95 % of all of them

2. Its is against FEDERAL LAW for any manufacture to say not using o. e. m.
parts will void a warranty.

3. Wix , NAPA filters that are direct cross reference are made to meet or exceed o. e. m. specifications .

4. If any Wix or Napa filter causes an engine failure they will pay The entire cost [ this available to you in writing at the auto parts store .}


5. Wix is a family of the largest companies in the world . Meaning very deep pockets .

6. I have spent time in the Gastoia , N. C . engineering department of Wix Filters , and can tell you there is an army of engineers working there .

[tshank]

Have been using Hastings oil filters. Have heard that they make the Amsoil filters. Can anybody verify?